Muchas gracias despejaste un gran peso de mi ah quería que si podrías enseñarme sobre la elección , predestinación y todo sobre esos asuntos parecidos .. amado disculpa es que toda mi doctrina está cambiando y no encuentro muchas preguntas que tengo .. por qué aprendí que DIOS a elegidos a unos y a otros los a desechado por soberanía divina y es responsabilidad humana el irce al infierno .. necesito ayuda hermano y disculpa
Los que creen que Dios ya tiene listo a los "escogidos", y los otros no tienen nada que hacer... los que creen malamente en esto de la elección son los llamados CALVINISTAS. Ellos creen que unas personas fueron favorecidas por Dios, y otros estan destinados a irse al infierno no importa lo que hagan.
O sea, creer eso, es no saber nada de la escritura:
- Yo puse una nota en efesios especialmente para despejar esta ridiculez de los calvinistas, y te la cito, para que entiendas que la salvación esta abierta para todos...Esto dice en Efesios, algo muy tergiversado y mal entendido por esos PERDIDOS calvinistas.
Efesios 1:4 Según como él nos ha escogido en él antes de la fundación del mundo, para que nosotros fuésemos santos y sin culpa delante de él en amor,
Efesios 1:5 Habiéndonos predestinado para la adopción de hijos por Jesucristo a sí mismo, según el buen placer de su voluntad,
Nota de la traducción de la King James:
""Los Calvinistas no entienden los versos 4-5 (entre otros) porque no logran leer que hay un requisito para ser escogidos y predestinados: “En él” (v. 4), “en Cristo” (v. 3), y nadie está en Cristo sin antes haber creído (v.13). Para la interpretación leer 2 Tim 1:9-10
Fíjate:
Efesios 1:13 En quien vosotros también confiasteis, después que oísteis la palabra de verdad, el evangelio de vuestra salvación; en quien también,
después que creísteis, fuisteis sellados con ese Espíritu Santo de promesa,
Si te fijas, nadie puede estar "en cristo", "en él" (tal como dice el verso Efe 1:3-4), si antes no ha creido.
Entonces, esto solo ya te deja claro que tú no puedes ser elegido si no has creido... y el creer depende de tí viejito, es una elección que tú haces, Dios te la ofrece y tú eres quien decide.
Ahora, eso de ser escogido "antes de la fundación del mundo" es la terrible interpretación de los calvinistas... te cito la explicación en 2 timoteo:
2 Tim 1:9 El cual nos ha salvado, y nos ha llamado con llamamiento santo, no conforme a nuestras obras, sino según su propio propósito y gracia, la cual nos fue dada
en Cristo Jesús antes del comienzo del mundo;
2 Tim 1:10 Pero ahora es hecha manifiesta por la aparición de nuestro Salvador Jesucristo, el cual abolió la muerte, y ha traído vida e inmortalidad a luz por del evangelio;
Cuando tú recibes a Jesucristo, hay 38 cosas que te ocurren sin que tú te des cuenta, esto está en inglés, pero lo dejo para que veas tan solo lo que ocurre... El punto 4, es que cuando recibes a Cristo, es que eres elegido.... Pensaba colocar esto en el apéndice pero no he tenido tiempo. Pertenece a Peter Ruckman, uno de los mejores profesores de la biblia que han existido...
1. The saved sinner has access to God’s grace, “For through him [Christ] we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father” (Eph. 2:8, 18).
2. We are adopted into the family of God as God’s sons, “To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of
sons.” “Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ,” (Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5).
3. We have an inheritance. Paul in preaching says that the Gentiles “may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are
sanctified” (Acts 26:18).
4. The child of God is elected. Once a man receives Christ as his Saviour, he is elected. “Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father” (1
Pet. 1:2). “Chosen us in him [Christ] before the foundation of the world” (Eph. 1:4). No man is chosen before the foundation of the world outside of
Christ. God doesn’t choose anybody but the people who are in Christ, and nobody was in Christ BEFORE the foundation of the world. As a matter of
fact, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were NEVER in Christ EVER. So, the man is not elected until AFTER he is saved. When a man receives Christ as his
Saviour, then he is elected because he is in Christ.
5. He becomes a child of God. “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on
his name” (John 1:12). “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God” (1 John 3:1).
6. He gets heavenly citizenship. “For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ” (Phil.
3:20).
7. He becomes an heir of God and a joint-heir with Christ. “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise”
(Gal. 3:29; Rom. 8:17).
8. He becomes a new creature, not “creation” as in the new, corrupt Bibles. “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things
are passed away; behold, all things are become new” (2 Cor. 5:17). We were born with the old nature—the fallen, Adamic nature—which is called a
“creature” in Romans 8:20. Now we have God’s nature, and you are a “creature” that has been born again.
9. The saved sinner becomes a servant of God. “But now being made free from sin, and become servants of God” (Rom. 6:22).
10. The saved sinner becomes a priest of God. 1 Peter 2:9 says every saved child of God is “a chosen generation, a royal priesthood.” Simon
Peter says, “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God,” not literal
sacrifices.
11. The saved sinner is reconciled to God. “Ye were without Christ, being aliens...and strangers...having no hope, and without God in the
world: But now in Christ Jesus ye...are made nigh by the blood of Christ” (Eph. 2:12; Rom. 5:10); that is, reconciled.
12. When a sinner trusts Jesus Christ as his Saviour, he is sanctified in the name of the Lord Jesus (1 Cor. 6:11). Acts 26:18 lists sanctification as a direct
result of conversion.
IN RELATION THE SON:
13. The sinner is “accepted in the beloved” (Eph. 1:6), which you will find changed in all the new Bibles. All the new “Bibles,” accepted by all the
little Campfire Girls and little Brownies in the kiddie camps today that talk about the Holy Ghost, have changed “accepted in the beloved” and gotten rid
of it. (I suppose the reason why is because they HAVEN’T been accepted.)
14. The believer is baptized into Christ’s body by the Holy Spirit. The baptism of the Holy Ghost that puts him into Christ is no more connected with
Acts chapter 2 than your Aunt Harriet’s software. “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body” (1 Cor. 12:13); not just the people that brag about
gifts that they don’t have, not just the people who pretend they are apostles when they are not, not just the people that counterfeit the apostolic signs that
don’t really have them, not just the people that have “another spirit” after they receive Christ and pretend it is the Holy Spirit. Every child of God, every sinner who trusts Christ, is put into Christ’s body by the baptism of the Holy Spirit, so Paul says, “For as many of you as
have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ” (Gal. 3:27). And, of course, water baptism is not mentioned within TEN CHAPTERS of either one
of those verses.
15. Romans 6:4 says, “we are buried with him by baptism,” and Paul says, “For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God” (Col. 3:3).
When the sinner who trusts Christ is “accepted in the beloved” and is baptized into Christ’s body by the Holy Spirit, he is buried with Christ by
spiritual baptism, and it has no more to do with Acts 2:38 than your father’s moustache.
16. The believer becomes a love gift to the Son from the Father. The Lord Jesus said, “I pray for them...which thou hast given me; for they are thine”
(John 17:9). Every saved sinner is a special love gift from the Father to His
Son, Jesus Christ.
17. The moment you trust Christ as Saviour, you are indwelt by Christ, and you are saved by Jesus Christ. The Bible says, “Believe on the Lord
Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31). “For there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved”
(Acts 4:12). You are indwelt by Christ. Jesus Christ in speaking of these matters said, “We [referring to Himself and the Holy Spirit] will come unto
him [the believer], and make our abode with him” (John 14 :23).
18. When the sinner trusts Jesus Christ, he possesses eternal life. “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish” (John 10:28).
“That ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe” (1John 5:13).
19. When the sinner trusts Jesus Christ, he has peace with God. “And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and
minds through Christ Jesus” (Phil. 4:7).
20. He becomes a friend of God. “Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you
friends” (John 15:15).
21. His name is recorded in Heaven (Luke 10:20).
22. He becomes a fellow laborer whose name is written in the book of life (Phil. 4:3).
23. He becomes seated with Christ in Heavenly places. “And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ
Jesus” (Eph. 2:6). In a sense, the Christian has already gone home to glory. His body is still down here, and he’s in his body, “absent from the Lord and
present in the body.” However, his spirit has been “born again” and “regenerated” by the Holy Spirit and joined to Christ’s Spirit. “He that is
joined unto the Lord is one spirit” (1 Cor. 6:17). In this sense, he is at present seated with Jesus Christ “in heavenly places.”
24. He receives a blessed hope. “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ”
(Titus 2:13). Notice, he does not hope he’s saved. He received the blessed hope, and the blessed hope is that Christ is coming to get us. “He which
testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus” (Rev. 22:20).
25. He comes into fellowship with the Trinity. John wrote “that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father,
and with his Son Jesus Christ” (1 John 1:3).
26. A mansion in glory becomes his. “In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place
for you” (John 14:2). Here are twenty-six things that happen to the sinner when he trusts Jesus Christ as Saviour. Whether he knows it or not or is conscious of it or not (according to the word of God), the doctrinal truth of the matter is that all those things have happened to this man when he trusts Jesus Christ as his Saviour. Now, what do you want for a nickel, friend? Isn’t that something? You compare that with this nonsense you are getting this day about “if you do this
and if you do that, you might make it.” Isn’t that pitiful? Imagine a Christian rejecting twenty-six things that happened to him the moment he was saved
because some Scriptural pervert comes along and messes him up with Matthew, Acts, and Hebrews. Isn’t that a tragedy? Imagine, after God giving
you all THAT upon simple faith and trust in Christ, you reject all of it on the ground that somebody quoted Matthew 24:13 and Hebrews chapter 6 to you,
which he no more understands than he understands how to ice skate to Jupiter and back.
IN RELATION TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:
27. He is born again (John 3:3–7), and water baptism is never connected with the new birth ANYWHERE in either Testament.
28. He is anointed by the Holy Spirit. “But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you”
(1 John 2:27)—in you, not on you.
29. The Holy Spirit comes into his body to dwell forever (John 14:26, 16:13).
30. The believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit to the day of redemption. “In whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit
of promise” (Eph. 1:13).
31. His body becomes the temple of the Holy Ghost. The people who use Acts chapter 2 to talk you out of that, to these ignorant people Paul said,
“What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you” (1 Cor. 6:19).
32. The saved sinner is given a spiritual gift by the Holy Spirit, and these gifts listed in 1 Corinthians chapter 12 still abide in the body of Christ, with
the exception of the signs given to Israel. When God ceased dealing with Israel at the end of Acts chapter 28 and the apostolic signs ceased, these signs
were counterfeited by Satan (2 Thess. 2:9). The people who counterfeited these apostolic signs were called “liars” (Rev. 2:2).
Never forgetting that “all Scripture is given by inspiration of God” and is profitable first of all for DOCTRINE,” you cannot reject what the Scriptures
say without taking your spiritual life in your own hands. The Scriptures say the “gifts” that are signs are for Israel (1 Cor. 1:22). Tongues are for a sign to
the unbelieving Israelite (1 Cor. 14:22), but they can be counterfeited by another spirit that is not the Holy Spirit (2 Cor. 11:3–4).
Now, some of you people aren’t going to look those verses up because you can’t stand the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but THE TRUTH. You
are unable to receive it. You are the people in 2 Timothy 4:1–6 of whom it was said, “shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And
they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
IN RELATION TO HIS SINS:
33. The saved sinner is forgiven (Luke 7:48).
34. He is justified (Rom. 5:1, 4:5).
35. He is redeemed. “Hast redeemed us to God by thy blood” (Rev. 5:9). Or as Simon Peter said, “ye were not redeemed with corruptible
things, as silver and gold...But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot” (1 Pet. 1:18–19).
36. When the sinner comes to Jesus Christ and trusts Him as Saviour, he has an Advocate, an attorney for the defense. “We have an advocate with the
Father, Jesus Christ the righteous” (1 John 2:1).
37. He has the possibility of getting victory over sin, and sin should not have dominion over him. “Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body,
that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof” (Rom. 6:12). You have exceeding great and precious promises that give you the victory over sin, if you claim
them.
IN RELATION TO OTHERS:
38. We become ambassadors for Christ. “Now then we are ambassadors for Christ” (2 Cor. 5:20).
We receive “all spiritual blessings in heavenly places” (Eph. 1:3).
O sea... Hay un libro de Peter Ruckman que se llama "Why I'm not a calvinist"... no sé si está en español, pero es para todos los que creen en esa mentira de la predestinación... un hermano hizo un buen video acerca de los calvinistas, está en inglés eso sí:
