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aparte parece la tonica que el RAW despues de WM, el publico sea mas participativo y apoye a los heel, y a Barrett le quedo como anillo al dedo, de hecho el wn se llego a cagar de la risa cuando el publico lo coreaba, más que lucho contra un Babyface que ya no calienta a nadie como Rey Mysterio.
aparte es la primera vez que aparte del ya monótono pendejos vs markys "let's go cena - cena sucks" sonara esto clarito
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¿que mierda es un marky? he encontrado tantos significados y sinónimos que le dan a esa palabra que ya ni se que derechamente es ¿es como el equivalente de los niños rata de lol y minecraft?
Cena es una mierda y hay que ABUSHEARLO y funarlo hasta que vince se aburra de los pendejos y se digne de hacer heel a ese personaje
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hasta donde me acuerdo en esos dias cuando alguien tiro la talla que Jotu tiraba con Vince, marky era basicamente un waton, tetón que creia en la maJia
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No creo que se trate de eso. La cuestión es que ahora el público de la WWE, sabe cada vez más del producto y, principalmente, lo que pasa detrás de las cámara. Actualmente la gente no apoya o abushea a los rudos o técnicos; apoya o abushea decisiones de booking, apoya o abushea a quien crean que se lo merece por su trabajo dando lo mismo si se supone que es bueno o malo según la historia.
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que es el infamous curtain call??
alguien cacha algo de ese incidente??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kliq
tiene algo que ver con the kliq y algo con la wcw parece, toda la info que encontre esta en ingles y me da una paja enorme traducir la wea o hacerlo con el traductor de google porque no se entendera ni una mierda
que es el infamous curtain call??
alguien cacha algo de ese incidente??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kliq
tiene algo que ver con the kliq y algo con la wcw parece, toda la info que encontre esta en ingles y me da una paja enorme traducir la wea o hacerlo con el traductor de google porque no se entendera ni una mierda
Curtain Call: The MSG Incident
The MSG Incident
One of the most talked-about actions involving The Kliq took place on May 19, 1996 at Madison Square Garden.[7] At the time, Hall and Nash were about to leave the WWF for rival WCW, and this was their last contractual obligation for the WWF.[8] At a major WWF live event, Paul Levesque (as the villainous Hunter Hearst Helmsley) wrestled the fan favorite Scott Hall (as Razor Ramon).[7] Later that night, Shawn Michaels, then a fan favorite, wrestled Kevin Nash (as the villainous Diesel) in a steel cage match. Immediately after the match, Ramon entered the ring and hugged Michaels, which was not seen as a problem as both were fan favorites at the time. However, Helmsley then entered the ring and hugged Ramon, and Diesel stood up and joined Michaels, Helmsley and Ramon in a prolonged group hug and then the four wrestlers stood facing the crowd with their arms raised together.[7][8]
Paul Levesque was the sole member of The Kliq punished for the MSG incident.
Their actions, also dubbed the "Curtain Call", scandalized WWF management, who at the time wanted to maintain the traditional illusion that the antipathy between fan favorites and villains was real and that they were not friends outside the ring. The rule was in place as a means of maintaining storylines and feuds between wrestlers, which sometimes lasted for years, and could unravel in seconds if the two feuding wrestlers were associating as friends in public.[9] WWF Chairman Vince McMahon was reported to be initially okay with the incident but did not expect them to take it so far.[8] McMahon also did not expect two fans in the audience to sneak a camcorder into the event and capture the entire incident on tape, which was later procured by the WWF and aired on the October 6, 1997 episode of Raw is War by Michaels and Levesque who, in storyline, used the footage to irritate McMahon.[10]
Because Hall and Nash had already confirmed their departure for WCW, they escaped punishment.[9] Michaels, who was the WWF Champion at the time and one of the promotion's biggest drawing cards, also could not be punished.[8] The punishment fell solely on Levesque, who was demoted from being a championship contender to wrestling inexperienced or lesser experienced wrestlers.[11] He did, however, win the WWF Intercontinental Championship five months later.[12] The Undertaker stated in HHH: The Game DVD that when Levesque first arrived in the WWF, he saw him as an arrogant person who only looked out for himself, but when Levesque took his punishment and did not complain, he earned his respect. This punishment turned out to have a major impact on the WWF's future. Before the "MSG Incident", Levesque had been booked into the finals of the 1996 King of the Ring tournament during the following summer, but his place—and the push that usually went with it—would instead go to Steve Austin, igniting his rise toward superstardom and helped the WWF defeat WCW in the Monday Night Wars.[8][9] Levesque's punishment only delayed his rise to prominence in the business, as he would go on to win the following year's King of the Ring tournament and later went on to become a 13 time world champion, beginning with his WWF Championship victory over Mick Foley the night after SummerSlam in 1999.[13]
The nWo and D-Generation X
Main articles: D-Generation X and nWo
It has been claimed that because WWF officials disliked the Kliq and their influence in booking matches, Hall and Nash's contracts were allowed to expire to break up the group.[14] In WWE media, however, it has been asserted that Nash and Hall were welcome in the WWF and were considered among its top superstars, but opted to leave the company for lucrative contracts in WCW.[15] When Hall and Nash went to WCW, they formed the New World Order (nWo) stable, along with Hulk Hogan.[16] When Waltman later jumped to WCW, he also joined the nWo. Many fans criticized Kevin Nash for his booking tenure in WCW since it displayed the same self-promoting behavior associated with The Kliq on an even larger scale. Fans often pointed to Nash, booking himself to win the WCW World Heavyweight Championship from the then-undefeated Goldberg and the subsequent match with Hogan as the most grievous of his "offenses". Nash, however, claims that he did not have booking power at the time of the incident.[17] Nash's innocence claim is disputed in several shoot interviews by various WCW wrestlers from the time who claimed that he, Hogan and several others often refused to put other wrestlers over in order to keep themselves as the main stars.
Sean Waltman was a member of both the nWo and D-Generation X
Meanwhile, Levesque and Michaels began to persuade WWF management to let them pair up on screen, but management was hesitant and wanted to keep The Kliq separated on-screen.[11] They eventually aligned together in the faction D-Generation X (DX), alongside Chyna.[11] DX eventually became as influential to the Monday Night Wars as the nWo. DX's antics also went on to help spark The Attitude Era in the WWF.[18] After Sean Waltman was fired from WCW, he was hired by WWF and joined DX, replacing the injured Michaels.[11] The nWo's hand sign, often referred to as the "Wolf Head", was originally used by the Kliq members in the WWF.[19] In the nWo, Hall and Nash brought the hand sign with them, and it became widely used by the nWo members and fans worldwide.[19]
During a brief period in 1998, after Waltman's return to the WWF as X-Pac, D-Generation X made numerous references to their friends in the WCW (though mostly not referencing WCW itself by name) in various appearances and speeches. DX (HHH, Waltman, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg and Chyna) even staged a protest/paramilitary take-over of the Norfolk Scope, where an episode of WCW Monday Nitro was taking place (on that same night, Monday Night Raw was emanating from nearby Hampton, Virginia). Triple H, riding in a M38, chanted "Let our people go!" through a megaphone during the incident. Sean Waltman also called out "we just wanted to say what's up to our boys Kevin Nash and Scott Hall" during the WCW invasion segment. DX also led a chant of "WCW sucks" by fans outside the arena who had tickets to the show (some of whom had been given free tickets to Nitro in order for WCW to boost crowd numbers).
In 2002, after WCW had gone out of business, the nWo was reformed in the WWF with Hall, Nash and Hogan, the group's initial members. Hogan soon left the group after being attacked by Nash and Hall as a result of his turning into a fan favorite at WrestleMania X8. Other former members, including The Big Show and Waltman, joined the group. Later, Shawn Michaels—after years away from the ring—was introduced by Kevin Nash as the newest member of the nWo, and Michaels promised the rest of the group that he would soon deliver Triple H. After weeks of lobbying for Triple H's services, a backstage promo of the nWo wishing Triple H luck before the match aired. This included 4 members of the Kliq (Shawn, Kevin, Pac and Triple H), as Big Show appeared wishing Triple H good luck as well. The nWo told Triple H to "throw up the hand signal" if he needed any help out there. Shortly thereafter, Nash suffered a torn quadriceps (after returning the same night after time off due to a biceps injury) during a ten-man tag-team match, and the following week Vince McMahon disbanded the nWo. Eric Bischoff (acting as the Raw brand General Manager) later tried to make Michaels Triple H's manager. This led to a short-lived reformation of DX, as Triple H turned on him the same night, setting off a long and heated feud that took approximately two years to resolve.[20] The year after, Nash returned from injury as a fan favorite and sided with Michaels against Evolution (Triple H, Ric Flair, Batista and Randy Orton).
Later formations
Michaels and Triple H have reformed D-Generation X, first returning together for a six-month stint on the June 12, 2006 edition of Monday Night Raw. They would feud against the Spirit Squad (Kenny, Johnny, Mitch, Nicky, and Mikey), the Big Show and Vince McMahon, and later the team of Rated-RKO (Edge and Randy Orton), until Triple H's legitimate knee injury in the beginning of 2007. They would reform again on August 2009 during Shawn Michaels' last year in the WWE. During this year, D-Generation X would capture the Unified WWE Tag Team Championships at TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2009) against Jericho and the Big Show, which would become the start of the first and only title reign for Triple H and Shawn Michaels as a tag team. D-Generation X would later go on to disband in March 2010 (after losing the Tag Team Titles to The Big Show and The Miz). Michaels would then focus heavily on ending the winning streak of The Undertaker at Wrestlemania, having failed to do so at WrestleMania XXV, he would put his career on the line for their second Wrestlemania encounter at WrestleMania XXVI which he would go on to lose and therefore end his career.
Hall, Nash and Waltman (then working for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling) would reform the nWo in a stable called The Band, where Hall and Nash won the TNA World Tag Team Championship, but Hall and Waltman were released shortly after (and Nash's contract would expire later on in the year).
On April 2, 2011, The Kliq, consisting of Nash, Waltman, Triple H and Shawn Michaels, made a special appearance as Shawn Michaels was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame 2011. Scott Hall decided not to attend the Hall of Fame ceremony or other WrestleMania XXVII festivities due to concerns of remaining sober. Hall has battled many drug and alcohol problems and suffered from various health problems in the past year and credits his friends in The Kliq for helping him through his battles. At the conclusion Scott Hall's Hall of Fame induction in 2014, the members of The Kliq joined him onstage.
The MSG Incident
One of the most talked-about actions involving The Kliq took place on May 19, 1996 at Madison Square Garden.[7] At the time, Hall and Nash were about to leave the WWF for rival WCW, and this was their last contractual obligation for the WWF.[8] At a major WWF live event, Paul Levesque (as the villainous Hunter Hearst Helmsley) wrestled the fan favorite Scott Hall (as Razor Ramon).[7] Later that night, Shawn Michaels, then a fan favorite, wrestled Kevin Nash (as the villainous Diesel) in a steel cage match. Immediately after the match, Ramon entered the ring and hugged Michaels, which was not seen as a problem as both were fan favorites at the time. However, Helmsley then entered the ring and hugged Ramon, and Diesel stood up and joined Michaels, Helmsley and Ramon in a prolonged group hug and then the four wrestlers stood facing the crowd with their arms raised together.[7][8]
Paul Levesque was the sole member of The Kliq punished for the MSG incident.
Their actions, also dubbed the "Curtain Call", scandalized WWF management, who at the time wanted to maintain the traditional illusion that the antipathy between fan favorites and villains was real and that they were not friends outside the ring. The rule was in place as a means of maintaining storylines and feuds between wrestlers, which sometimes lasted for years, and could unravel in seconds if the two feuding wrestlers were associating as friends in public.[9] WWF Chairman Vince McMahon was reported to be initially okay with the incident but did not expect them to take it so far.[8] McMahon also did not expect two fans in the audience to sneak a camcorder into the event and capture the entire incident on tape, which was later procured by the WWF and aired on the October 6, 1997 episode of Raw is War by Michaels and Levesque who, in storyline, used the footage to irritate McMahon.[10]
Because Hall and Nash had already confirmed their departure for WCW, they escaped punishment.[9] Michaels, who was the WWF Champion at the time and one of the promotion's biggest drawing cards, also could not be punished.[8] The punishment fell solely on Levesque, who was demoted from being a championship contender to wrestling inexperienced or lesser experienced wrestlers.[11] He did, however, win the WWF Intercontinental Championship five months later.[12] The Undertaker stated in HHH: The Game DVD that when Levesque first arrived in the WWF, he saw him as an arrogant person who only looked out for himself, but when Levesque took his punishment and did not complain, he earned his respect. This punishment turned out to have a major impact on the WWF's future. Before the "MSG Incident", Levesque had been booked into the finals of the 1996 King of the Ring tournament during the following summer, but his place—and the push that usually went with it—would instead go to Steve Austin, igniting his rise toward superstardom and helped the WWF defeat WCW in the Monday Night Wars.[8][9] Levesque's punishment only delayed his rise to prominence in the business, as he would go on to win the following year's King of the Ring tournament and later went on to become a 13 time world champion, beginning with his WWF Championship victory over Mick Foley the night after SummerSlam in 1999.[13]
The nWo and D-Generation X
Main articles: D-Generation X and nWo
It has been claimed that because WWF officials disliked the Kliq and their influence in booking matches, Hall and Nash's contracts were allowed to expire to break up the group.[14] In WWE media, however, it has been asserted that Nash and Hall were welcome in the WWF and were considered among its top superstars, but opted to leave the company for lucrative contracts in WCW.[15] When Hall and Nash went to WCW, they formed the New World Order (nWo) stable, along with Hulk Hogan.[16] When Waltman later jumped to WCW, he also joined the nWo. Many fans criticized Kevin Nash for his booking tenure in WCW since it displayed the same self-promoting behavior associated with The Kliq on an even larger scale. Fans often pointed to Nash, booking himself to win the WCW World Heavyweight Championship from the then-undefeated Goldberg and the subsequent match with Hogan as the most grievous of his "offenses". Nash, however, claims that he did not have booking power at the time of the incident.[17] Nash's innocence claim is disputed in several shoot interviews by various WCW wrestlers from the time who claimed that he, Hogan and several others often refused to put other wrestlers over in order to keep themselves as the main stars.
Sean Waltman was a member of both the nWo and D-Generation X
Meanwhile, Levesque and Michaels began to persuade WWF management to let them pair up on screen, but management was hesitant and wanted to keep The Kliq separated on-screen.[11] They eventually aligned together in the faction D-Generation X (DX), alongside Chyna.[11] DX eventually became as influential to the Monday Night Wars as the nWo. DX's antics also went on to help spark The Attitude Era in the WWF.[18] After Sean Waltman was fired from WCW, he was hired by WWF and joined DX, replacing the injured Michaels.[11] The nWo's hand sign, often referred to as the "Wolf Head", was originally used by the Kliq members in the WWF.[19] In the nWo, Hall and Nash brought the hand sign with them, and it became widely used by the nWo members and fans worldwide.[19]
During a brief period in 1998, after Waltman's return to the WWF as X-Pac, D-Generation X made numerous references to their friends in the WCW (though mostly not referencing WCW itself by name) in various appearances and speeches. DX (HHH, Waltman, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg and Chyna) even staged a protest/paramilitary take-over of the Norfolk Scope, where an episode of WCW Monday Nitro was taking place (on that same night, Monday Night Raw was emanating from nearby Hampton, Virginia). Triple H, riding in a M38, chanted "Let our people go!" through a megaphone during the incident. Sean Waltman also called out "we just wanted to say what's up to our boys Kevin Nash and Scott Hall" during the WCW invasion segment. DX also led a chant of "WCW sucks" by fans outside the arena who had tickets to the show (some of whom had been given free tickets to Nitro in order for WCW to boost crowd numbers).
In 2002, after WCW had gone out of business, the nWo was reformed in the WWF with Hall, Nash and Hogan, the group's initial members. Hogan soon left the group after being attacked by Nash and Hall as a result of his turning into a fan favorite at WrestleMania X8. Other former members, including The Big Show and Waltman, joined the group. Later, Shawn Michaels—after years away from the ring—was introduced by Kevin Nash as the newest member of the nWo, and Michaels promised the rest of the group that he would soon deliver Triple H. After weeks of lobbying for Triple H's services, a backstage promo of the nWo wishing Triple H luck before the match aired. This included 4 members of the Kliq (Shawn, Kevin, Pac and Triple H), as Big Show appeared wishing Triple H good luck as well. The nWo told Triple H to "throw up the hand signal" if he needed any help out there. Shortly thereafter, Nash suffered a torn quadriceps (after returning the same night after time off due to a biceps injury) during a ten-man tag-team match, and the following week Vince McMahon disbanded the nWo. Eric Bischoff (acting as the Raw brand General Manager) later tried to make Michaels Triple H's manager. This led to a short-lived reformation of DX, as Triple H turned on him the same night, setting off a long and heated feud that took approximately two years to resolve.[20] The year after, Nash returned from injury as a fan favorite and sided with Michaels against Evolution (Triple H, Ric Flair, Batista and Randy Orton).
Later formations
Michaels and Triple H have reformed D-Generation X, first returning together for a six-month stint on the June 12, 2006 edition of Monday Night Raw. They would feud against the Spirit Squad (Kenny, Johnny, Mitch, Nicky, and Mikey), the Big Show and Vince McMahon, and later the team of Rated-RKO (Edge and Randy Orton), until Triple H's legitimate knee injury in the beginning of 2007. They would reform again on August 2009 during Shawn Michaels' last year in the WWE. During this year, D-Generation X would capture the Unified WWE Tag Team Championships at TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2009) against Jericho and the Big Show, which would become the start of the first and only title reign for Triple H and Shawn Michaels as a tag team. D-Generation X would later go on to disband in March 2010 (after losing the Tag Team Titles to The Big Show and The Miz). Michaels would then focus heavily on ending the winning streak of The Undertaker at Wrestlemania, having failed to do so at WrestleMania XXV, he would put his career on the line for their second Wrestlemania encounter at WrestleMania XXVI which he would go on to lose and therefore end his career.
Hall, Nash and Waltman (then working for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling) would reform the nWo in a stable called The Band, where Hall and Nash won the TNA World Tag Team Championship, but Hall and Waltman were released shortly after (and Nash's contract would expire later on in the year).
On April 2, 2011, The Kliq, consisting of Nash, Waltman, Triple H and Shawn Michaels, made a special appearance as Shawn Michaels was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame 2011. Scott Hall decided not to attend the Hall of Fame ceremony or other WrestleMania XXVII festivities due to concerns of remaining sober. Hall has battled many drug and alcohol problems and suffered from various health problems in the past year and credits his friends in The Kliq for helping him through his battles. At the conclusion Scott Hall's Hall of Fame induction in 2014, the members of The Kliq joined him onstage.
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Pa hacer el cuento corto. En un show de WWF, luchaba el malo HHH contra el bueno Razor Ramón y la otra lucha importante era el face HBK contra el heel Diesel. Tanto Diesel como Ramón habían firmado por wCw y después de la lucha del chico rompe catres contra Diesel, se mete Ramón y abrazó a Michaels, lo que no significaba problemas ya que ambos eran face. Pero cuando se metió HHH y Diesel e hicieron un abrazo grupal, "rompieron la maJia" en una época donde prácticamente no existían spoilers y eran super cuidadosos con no salirse del personaje. Claro, ese abrazo fue a modo de despedida porque el par de weones se iba a wCw, cosa que, me atrevería a decir, el púbico que veía la WWF no sabía, osea que en alguna medida era un doble cagazo.
Por esto, el único castigado fue HHH y le retrasaron el push para que ganase el KOR 1996 y se lo dieron al pelao Ostin, para que HHH lo ganara el 97.
Por esto, el único castigado fue HHH y le retrasaron el push para que ganase el KOR 1996 y se lo dieron al pelao Ostin, para que HHH lo ganara el 97.
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ooo que son weones
osea se supone que los weones se odiaban a morir y terminaban abrazados en el ring y le gente q obviamente en ese tiempo no tenia acceso a la informacion como ahora quedaba 
en fin, pensaba que era algo mas trascendente...pero era una mierda de fail no mas
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ooo que son weones
en fin, pensaba que era algo mas trascendente...pero era una mierda de fail no mas
Y suponiendo que no sabían que los otros weones se iban a wCw, quedaron como diciendo "¿Por que chucha se abrazan?".
Y ojo, no fue irrelevante, porque si hilamos fino, esa weá significó el push a Ostin y la creación del personaje que después salvó a WWE. Si no castigaban a HHH tal vez al pelao no lo hubiesen pusheado nunca o no hubiese sido tarde
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el único que cagó con eso fue el ñato, y ya vemos en qué está hoy día
en cambio hall y nash, se fueron en gloria y majestad
y ya vemos en qué están hoy día...
Sigo insistiendo, sin esa weá no hubiese existido el Austin 3:16 en su debido tiempo...
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Sigo insistiendo, sin esa weá no hubiese existido el Austin 3:16 en su debido tiempo...
quizá hubiera pasado igual weón, da lo mismo
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Rusev, inevitablemente va a seguir el mismo camino de Tensai y Ryback.
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Rusev tiene a Lana como pareja, lo que menos le debe importar es si le dan un push o no
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Tengo una consulta sobre el nombre de un luchador, era japones o aparentaba serlo. Epoca no la recuerdo.
Uno de sus ataques espaciales era una patada a la cabeza, tambien escupia un liquido verde que al parecer se llamaba aliento de dragon o algo asi.
Puta tengo un vago recuerdo de su nombre, era algo como iri kiri jiri.
Gracias.
Uno de sus ataques espaciales era una patada a la cabeza, tambien escupia un liquido verde que al parecer se llamaba aliento de dragon o algo asi.
Puta tengo un vago recuerdo de su nombre, era algo como iri kiri jiri.
Gracias.
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