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Exterminio de Plagas, Coronavirus: La pandemia del COVID-19

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Sí, comuna de Santiago=Santiago Centro. Le dicen así para diferenciarlo de la provincia de Santiago de la que por cierto, es capital :awesome:

Los salvoconductos son para transitar en el toque de queda, para lo demás hay permisos temporales y con ellos puedes salir a hacer la actividad que ahí se señale.

Hay fiscalizaciones, pero son pocas y laxas en muchos casos. Ayer en Ahumada habían como 3 controles.

Hay comercio ambulante, menos que antes eso sí. En otras partes, como el barrio cívico, ha desaparecido casi por completo y los que ves, son inmigrantes vendiendo frutas/verduras.

Largas filas en casi todas las entidades bancarias y telefonía. En la mayoría no respetan la distancia, pegados como lapas.

Repartidores de comida los tienes por montones y el comercio, excepto minimarkets, pequeños almacenes y restaurantes, cerrado aunque PreUnic y todas esas tiendas de permuería están abiertas, no sé por qué.

Pero en general, toda la zona que está cuarenteneada hace semanas, se puede transitar sin mayores problemas. Hasta donde sé, no hay cordón sanitario, así que puedes entrar y salir de la comuna tranquilamente :sisi3:

Los milicos no controlan porque no recae en ellos esa labor sino que en los pacos.

Ese es el panorama en el corazón de la comuna, ni me imagino como debe ser la periferia aunque me contaron que el persa Bío-Bío estaba repleto.

El día del loly salen de la cuarentena así 2:

Enviado desde mi corazón
estas en santiago centro entonces? y has salido? como has visto el panorama? osea que la cuarentena es de nombre nomas , mas que nada o me equivoco? otra cosa . hay un limite de salvoconductos/permisos por semana?
 
Y FUMAR CIGARRILLO? QUE PASA?

Han habido posts que hablan de que el cigarro ayuda y otros que no.

Al parecer AMBOS están en lo correcto

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El fumar, al parecer reduce 4 veces la probabilidad de contagio del virus, pero si te contagiaste aumentan la probabilidad de morir.

Tanto es asi que se esta evaluando usar parches de nicotina para "la primera linea" de la salud, para asi obtener los beneficios pero no los riesgos del humo.

Esto estaría relacionado al receptor acetylcholine (nAChR)

Smokers 'four times less likely' to contract Covid-19, prompting nicotine patch trials on patients

Researchers in France will test nicotine patches on health workers and patients but reiterated smoking could also cause more severe illness

Researchers at Paris' Pitié-Salpétrière hospital believe nicotine protects cells from coronavirus attack CREDIT: Science Photo Library
Frontline health workers and patients in France may be given nicotine patches after studies found that four times fewer smokers contracted Covid-19 than non-smokers.

It may sound counterintuitive that people who puff on Gauloises are less likely to catch a virus that can cause deadly attacks on the lungs. However, that was the statistical outcome of an in-depth study conducted by the Pasteur Institute, a leading French research centre into the disease.

The institute tested almost 700 teachers and pupils of a school in Crépy-en-Valois in one of the hardest-hit areas in France, as well as their families. The “highly accurate” tests found that only 7.2 per cent of smokers from among the adults tested were infected while four times as many non-smokers, some 28 per cent, were infected.

Arnaud Fontanet, an epidemiologist at the institute, warned that they were not encouraging people to take up smoking, remarking that those smokers who do catch the virus “risk suffering more complications” than others. Scientists suggested it could be the nicotine in cigarettes that was behind the surprising results regarding infection, although more research is needed.


A study from China prompted Public Health England and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States to put smoking on the list of 'risk factors' for coronavirus earlier in the crisis.


Smoking kills 75,000 people every year in France, which has suffered 21,000 deaths from the coronavirus CREDIT: Jenny Kane/AP
Public Health England said: "Smoking tobacco is known to damage the lungs and airways causing a range of severe respiratory problems. The evidence clearly shows Covid-19 virus attacks the respiratory system, which explains why smokers are at greater risk. A small but highly impactful survey from China finds that smokers with Covid-19 are 14 times more likely to develop severe disease."

However, the Pasteur Institute results appear to tally with another study by the Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital in Paris, which questioned 480 patients who tested positive for the virus.

According to their findings, among the 350 patients hospitalised, whose median age was 65, only 4.4 per cent were regular smokers. Among those released home, with a median age of 44, 5.3 per cent smoked.

The French health authority Santé Publique France puts the number of smokers in the general population at 32 per cent of people between 18 to 75 years old.

“Compared to the French general population, the Covid-19 population exhibited a significantly weaker current daily smoker rate by 80.3 per cent for outpatients and by 75.4 per cent for inpatients,” the researchers wrote in their study.

“Thus, current smoking status appears to be a protective factor against the infection by SARS-CoV-2.”

The researchers said that a “nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR)” plays a key role in infection from the coronavirus and that nicotine may act to protect this receptor from attack. It may also lessen the overreaction of the body’s immune system that has been found in the most severe cases of Covid-19 infection.

Clinical trials of nicotine patches on health workers and patients are awaiting the approval of the country’s health authorities.

Health minister Olivier Véran called the study "interesting", adding: "We will not be shutting any doors and certainly not that one."

Smoking causes 75,000 deaths in France and researchers were at pains to point out that nobody should take up the habit as a preventative measure.

“One should not forget that nicotine is a drug of abuse responsible for smoking addiction," they wrote.

“Smoking has severe pathological consequences and remains a serious danger for health. Yet under controlled settings, nicotinic agents could provide an efficient treatment for an acute infection such as Covid-19,” they concluded.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-likely-contract-covid-19-prompting-nicotine/

Interesante artículo, dado que mas de un 30% de los Chilenos somos fumadores... buscaré mas info, gracias.
 
de toda esta wea ya estoy sacando conclusiones:

1. empresarios felices con la llegada de extranjeros.
2. coronavirus, finalmente seran los extranjeros la piedra en el zapato para reactivar la economia
3. chilenos empezando a odiar a extranjeros
4. empresarios recibiendo un epic fail.

no se si estar triste o feliz
 
Y FUMAR CIGARRILLO? QUE PASA?

Han habido posts que hablan de que el cigarro ayuda y otros que no.

Al parecer AMBOS están en lo correcto

Hide-the-Pain-Harold.jpg


El fumar, al parecer reduce 4 veces la probabilidad de contagio del virus, pero si te contagiaste aumentan la probabilidad de morir.

Tanto es asi que se esta evaluando usar parches de nicotina para "la primera linea" de la salud, para asi obtener los beneficios pero no los riesgos del humo.

Esto estaría relacionado al receptor acetylcholine (nAChR)

Smokers 'four times less likely' to contract Covid-19, prompting nicotine patch trials on patients

Researchers in France will test nicotine patches on health workers and patients but reiterated smoking could also cause more severe illness

Researchers at Paris' Pitié-Salpétrière hospital believe nicotine protects cells from coronavirus attack CREDIT: Science Photo Library
Frontline health workers and patients in France may be given nicotine patches after studies found that four times fewer smokers contracted Covid-19 than non-smokers.

It may sound counterintuitive that people who puff on Gauloises are less likely to catch a virus that can cause deadly attacks on the lungs. However, that was the statistical outcome of an in-depth study conducted by the Pasteur Institute, a leading French research centre into the disease.

The institute tested almost 700 teachers and pupils of a school in Crépy-en-Valois in one of the hardest-hit areas in France, as well as their families. The “highly accurate” tests found that only 7.2 per cent of smokers from among the adults tested were infected while four times as many non-smokers, some 28 per cent, were infected.

Arnaud Fontanet, an epidemiologist at the institute, warned that they were not encouraging people to take up smoking, remarking that those smokers who do catch the virus “risk suffering more complications” than others. Scientists suggested it could be the nicotine in cigarettes that was behind the surprising results regarding infection, although more research is needed.


A study from China prompted Public Health England and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States to put smoking on the list of 'risk factors' for coronavirus earlier in the crisis.


Smoking kills 75,000 people every year in France, which has suffered 21,000 deaths from the coronavirus CREDIT: Jenny Kane/AP
Public Health England said: "Smoking tobacco is known to damage the lungs and airways causing a range of severe respiratory problems. The evidence clearly shows Covid-19 virus attacks the respiratory system, which explains why smokers are at greater risk. A small but highly impactful survey from China finds that smokers with Covid-19 are 14 times more likely to develop severe disease."

However, the Pasteur Institute results appear to tally with another study by the Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital in Paris, which questioned 480 patients who tested positive for the virus.

According to their findings, among the 350 patients hospitalised, whose median age was 65, only 4.4 per cent were regular smokers. Among those released home, with a median age of 44, 5.3 per cent smoked.

The French health authority Santé Publique France puts the number of smokers in the general population at 32 per cent of people between 18 to 75 years old.

“Compared to the French general population, the Covid-19 population exhibited a significantly weaker current daily smoker rate by 80.3 per cent for outpatients and by 75.4 per cent for inpatients,” the researchers wrote in their study.

“Thus, current smoking status appears to be a protective factor against the infection by SARS-CoV-2.”

The researchers said that a “nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR)” plays a key role in infection from the coronavirus and that nicotine may act to protect this receptor from attack. It may also lessen the overreaction of the body’s immune system that has been found in the most severe cases of Covid-19 infection.

Clinical trials of nicotine patches on health workers and patients are awaiting the approval of the country’s health authorities.

Health minister Olivier Véran called the study "interesting", adding: "We will not be shutting any doors and certainly not that one."

Smoking causes 75,000 deaths in France and researchers were at pains to point out that nobody should take up the habit as a preventative measure.

“One should not forget that nicotine is a drug of abuse responsible for smoking addiction," they wrote.

“Smoking has severe pathological consequences and remains a serious danger for health. Yet under controlled settings, nicotinic agents could provide an efficient treatment for an acute infection such as Covid-19,” they concluded.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-likely-contract-covid-19-prompting-nicotine/

¿desde cuando el fumar es beneficioso para la salud?

:idolo:no saber diferenciar entre propaganda y ciencia.
 
de toda esta wea ya estoy sacando conclusiones:

1. empresarios felices con la llegada de extranjeros.
2. coronavirus, finalmente seran los extranjeros la piedra en el zapato para reactivar la economia
3. chilenos empezando a odiar a extranjeros
4. empresarios recibiendo un epic fail.

no se si estar triste o feliz

1.- seguiran felices , los hace felices y los hara felices, les da lo mismo el impacto negativo que generen, lo importante es el costo $ para ellos,
2.- es momentaneo, cuando hay falta de bienes y servicios la gente entra en panico, espera 3 meses a que vuelva todo a la normalidad y no tengas que hacer fila y te dara lo mismo si el que entra atras tuyo es veneco, monombiano o hitean
3.- siempre se les ha odiado , pero la prensa mundial comenzo con todo el movimiento progre, haciendo que tengas que sentirlo en silencio, por que no es moda y se ve feo , pero ante weas como las que pasan hoy donde tenis que ir codo a codo a pelear un kilo de arroz al super ya no hay como silenciar el sentir. pero es momentaneo .
4.- jamas, la prensa agarro la noticia hoy por que estaba ahi candente y de seguro a TVN el mostrarlo le subio el rating a la xuxa , pero ya en la tarde el CNTV les correra la callampa respectiva y su silenciada.
 
No, dije eso. El wn habla de lógica y no es capaz de comprender algo simple :lol2:

Que pienses igual que tus padres, abuelos, bisabuelos, etc, habla súper mal de ti po weon, no me voy a malgastar mi tiempo explicando si no eres capaz de darte cuenta solo.

Por otro lado dejen de pensar todo en binario: Hay que expulsar, matar a los negros porque son unos monos retrasados que no aportan en nada, o hay que amar a los negros y chuparles el pico porque son un aporte multicultural y chileno tiene que acepta. No es así
Lo entendió todo :ojazos:

:qloco:
 
No, dije eso. El wn habla de lógica y no es capaz de comprender algo simple :lol2:

Que pienses igual que tus padres, abuelos, bisabuelos, etc, habla súper mal de ti po weon, no me voy a malgastar mi tiempo explicando si no eres capaz de darte cuenta solo.

Por otro lado dejen de pensar todo en binario: Hay que expulsar, matar a los negros porque son unos monos retrasados que no aportan en nada, o hay que amar a los negros y chuparles el pico porque son un aporte multicultural y chileno tiene que acepta. No es así


no se entiende ni pico lo que acabas de escribir... por favor, date otra oportunidad, toma unos 5 minutos de tu tiempo y explica bien la wea.
 
No, dije eso. El wn habla de lógica y no es capaz de comprender algo simple :lol2:

Que pienses igual que tus padres, abuelos, bisabuelos, etc, habla súper mal de ti po weon, no me voy a malgastar mi tiempo explicando si no eres capaz de darte cuenta solo.

Por otro lado dejen de pensar todo en binario: Hay que expulsar, matar a los negros porque son unos monos retrasados que no aportan en nada, o hay que amar a los negros y chuparles el pico porque son un aporte multicultural y chileno tiene que acepta. No es así
El hueon retrasado jajajaja.
 
Pues este es un hilo de covid y noticias relacionadas. Si ud quiere recetas de salud y belleza hay otros hilos. Un abrazo


estas promoviendo un tema donde supuestamente el fumar ayuda a palear la enfermedad de COVID19, que es beneficioso para la salud de la persona y al mismo tiempo dices que no se dice que fumar es saludable.

Lo cual es FALSO.

¿entiendes la logica de la estupidez que estas diciendo?.
 
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