Diario de EEUU recomienda a Egipto imitar a Pinochet

Lo que ni dice la editorial, es que el modelo neoliberal desde hace años está siendo implementado en Egipto. Y quienes ahí gobernaban no han buscado otra cosa. De hecho si alguien creía que la HM buscaba romper con esa tendencia, está muy equivocado, la HM era derechista, conservadora en lo social, y neoliberal en lo político. La diferencia es que la HM tiene nexos con Hamás (algo que no le gusta a los poderosos), y buscaba regresar a Egipto a un papel más disidente en la palestra regional, algo que desde Nasser no se ve. Pero a lo que voy es que parece ya irrisorio y hasta insultante que una editorial de un diario que se presume serio, diga que lo que debe hacer Egipto es seguir un modelo que de hecho ya seguían, y que les ha traído los resultados que les trae (las protestas en ese país de hecho se originaron en gran medida por la pauperización de las capas y clases laborales luego de décadas de neoliberalismo).

Viudas del perro yanqui con el ano dilatado.

Aquiles_Cloneza dijo:

Claro, porque en estos momentos el problema de Egipto es de comunistas vs fachos Saco de weas pa grande

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me da la misma wea de quien sea el problema, si es de fachos o comunistas, me importa un pico

En estos momentos necesitan un hombre fuerte que imponga el ORDEN a punta de espada si es necesario...

Es obvio. Por eso les interesaba tanto pitearse al musulman radical,era logico que duraría menos que un peo.
Ahora pondran un liberal prousa que les privatizara hasta el culo.

Meanwhile, in the Guardian:

Wall Street Journal says Egypt needs a Pinochet – can it get away with that?
The Chilean dictator presided over the torture and murder of thousands, yet still the free-market right reveres his name


Augusto Pinochet in 1997 in Santiago, Chile. Photograph: Santiago Llanquin/AP
On Friday, the Wall Street Journal published an editorial entitled "After the Coup in Cairo". Its final paragraph contained these words:
Presumably, this means that those who speak for the Wall Street Journal – the editorial was unsigned – think Egypt should think itself lucky if its ruling generals now preside over a 17-year reign of terror. I also take it the WSJ means us to associate two governments removed by generals – the one led by Salvador Allende in Chile and the one led by Mohamed Morsi in Egypt. Islamist, socialist … elected, legitimate … who cares?

Presumably, the WSJ thinks the Egyptians now have 17 years in which to think themselves lucky when any who dissent are tortured with electricity, raped, thrown from planes or – if they're really lucky – just shot. That's what happened in Chile after 1973, causing the deaths of between 1,000 and 3,000 people. Around 30,000 were tortured.

Presumably, the WSJ hopes a general in the mold of Pinochet (or generals, as they didn't break the mold when they made him) will preside over all this with the assistance of Britain and America. Perhaps he (or they) will return the favour by helping one of them win a small war.

Presumably, eventually, the Egyptian general or generals – and we should let them have a junta if they want one, so long as it isn't like that beastly example in Argentina – will willingly relinquish power. After all, democracy cannot "midwife" itself. Presumably, the WSJ is sure a transition to elected government will follow, as it did in Chile. (Although, in 15 years' time the Argentinian writer Ariel Dorfman's words will, presumably, ring as true as they do now: "Saying Pinochet brought democracy to Chile is like saying Margaret Thatcher brought socialism to Britain." More of her later.)

Such quibbles notwithstanding, I'm presuming the WSJ envisages that the Egyptian general or generals will then be allowed to retire, unmolested. Possibly to Wentworth, where the golf's good. But if any molestation does occur, perhaps by some uppity human rights lawyer, they will receive further assistance from the governing classes of Britain and America. He or they will then retire and, unlike his or their victims, die a free man – or men – in bed.

And presumably, after another 20 or 30 years, when some other group of generals removes a democratic government upon which the Wall Street Journal is not keen, the people of the fortunate country in question will be told what is good for them in the same breathtakingly ugly way.

I am not an expert on Egypt, or Chile – most of my knowledge about General Pinochet comes from a book by a Guardian writer, Andy Beckett. But I know enough that when Margaret Thatcher died, reminders of her enduring support and praise for Pinochet left a nasty taste in the mouth. While people are dying in the streets of Cairo, to read an expression of the same sentiment from a respected, globally-read newspaper is repellent.

So just why does General Augusto Pinochet attract such nostalgic, unquestioning support from some on the free-market right? Do they simply overlook the accepted fact that thousands were tortured and killed under his rule?
Perhaps this might be a case of "Say what you like about Mussolini, but he made the trains run on time"? Bernie Ecclestone, the chap who runs Formula One motor-racing, tried it a couple of years ago – albeit he said it about Hitler (and Saddam Hussain), and we don't stand for that. Even Britain's Daily Mail was upset.

Presumably, the Wall Street Journal's editorial board believes that because Pinochet "hired free-market reformers", he should be excused the excesses of a few death squads. That is, presumably, why they think a business-friendly cold killer in the Pinochet mold is who Egyptians need now to manage their "transition to democracy".

But really, I'm at a loss. There must be some sort of justification for such a statement. I just haven't the slightest clue what it is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...-journal-editorial-egypt-pinochet?INTCMP=SRCH

Ta clarito, el viejo la hizo corta y precisa pal 73. Totalmente necesario.
El drama fue q este qlo despues se puso sediento de poder, mato y robo como loco, no es justificable, pero el golpe estuvo bien.

ahora egipto será el jaguar de oriente próximo jajajajajaj, fachiturros pobres

dark_light dijo:

le chupan el pene a pinocho y tienen que pagar mas que la chucha en educación, salud y previsión

se alegran de que suba el PIB y que sigan ganando lo mismo y cada vez más le suben el costo de vida los fachos definitivamente tienen una mierda de mente, gracias por abrir un mercado donde seamos uno de los países con más desigualdad

se quejan de la delincuencia y las leyes que dejan libre a los wns se escribieron en la dictadura

chistoso transición a la democracia 17 años de transición como si antes viviéramos sin democracia


"el tiempo nos dio la razón, si, que los fachos son los más aweonao que puede haber "

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Estimado, permítame recordarle que durante el gobierno del tata, la educación no era una mierda comparándola cuando asumieron los empresarios vestidos de pobre, aka concertamafia.
Durante el glorioso gobierno militar, a los flaites qlios se les mataba en el acto, y durante un tiempo, el país estaba bien, hasta que Frei o Lagos, no estoy seguro, comenzó a quitarle atribuciones a los verdes, entre ellas, detención por sospecha. Mismo período los delincuentes comenzaron a tener mayores derechos que las víctimas, y por si fuera poco, las mismas perras que webearon por los DDHH violados con el tata, comenzaron a wear diciendo que a los delincuentes había que tratarlos con delicadeza no vulnerando sus derechos Te recuerdo que antes de la reforma procesal, no estaba la zorra como ahora, donde hay un fiscal y cerca de 20 abogados defensores.