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http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2015/11/03/actualidad/1446579051_485635.html
Rusia media para reunir al Gobierno sirio y la oposición
El Kremlin deja el futuro de Bachar El Asad en manos del pueblo sirio

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El presidente ruso, Vladímir Putin, conversa con el ministro de Exteriores, Sergei Lavrov, en Moscú el 29 de octubre de 2015. / SERGEI CHIRIKOV / POOL (EFE)

En paralelo a la intervención militar, Rusia redobla sus esfuerzos diplomáticos a la búsqueda de una solución política al conflicto que azota Siria desde 2011. Con este fin, el Ministerio de Exteriores de Rusia trata de organizar la semana próxima en Moscú conversaciones entre representantes del Gobierno sirio y miembros de la oposición, según anunció este martes el viceministro de Exteriores, Mijaíl Bogdánov, sin especificar quiénes serán los eventuales participantes.


El nuevo intento de diálogo será tratado el miércoles en Moscú por el ministro de Exteriores ruso, Serguéi Lavrov, y el representante especial de la ONU para Siria, Staffan de Mistura. De Mistura viajó de Viena a Damasco tras la cumbre ministerial del 30 de octubre en la capital austriaca, un foro que, a diferencia de otros anteriores, reunió a todos los grandes actores regionales involucrados en el conflicto.

A fines de septiembre, Rusia inició una ofensiva aérea sobre las posiciones del Estado Islámico y otros grupos afines en Siria. Esta acción militar, contemplada en Occidente con sentimientos contradictorios, parece haber contribuido a mejorar la moral de las tropas leales a Bachar el Asad, pero entraña riesgos y puede incrementar la amenaza de atentados contra objetivos rusos o en la propia Rusia. La catástrofe del Airbus 321 ruso sobre la península del Sinaí, cualquiera que fueran sus causas, ha motivado comentarios de prensa sobre el peligro del terrorismo y el portavoz del Kremlin, Dmitri Peskov, advirtió de que la tragedia aérea no debía mezclarse con la intervención en Siria.

El Kremlin, que reivindica el estatus internacional de la Federación Rusa en Siria, no desea, sin embargo, estancarse en aquel país como se estancó EE UU en Vietnam o la Unión Soviética en Afganistán. La reunión de Moscú, de lograr una asistencia representativa de los distintos grupos "aceptables" internacionalmente, permitiría comprobar cómo han influido los bombardeos rusos sobre la fragmentada oposición siria. Bogdánov dijo haberse reunido con muchas personas que aseguran representar al Ejército Libre de Siria, tanto en El Cairo como en Moscú, según la agencia Ria Novosti.

La permanencia en el poder del presidente El Asad no es una cuestión de principios para Rusia, según reiteró este miércoles la portavoz del ministerio de Exteriores, María Zajárova. La funcionaria puntualizó que "sólo el pueblo sirio puede decidir el destino del presidente". Esta posición de no aferrarse al líder sirio fue expresada con anterioridad por responsables de la diplomacia rusa, incluido el ministro Lavrov. No obstante, la frase podía haber perdido retórica y ganado en contenido nuevo y concreto en el marco de la búsqueda de compromisos entre los grandes actores regionales, sobre todo en la dinámica de un periodo de transición con puntos de partida y de llegada consensuados (con o sin El Asad). A lo que Moscú se opone es a un cambio de régimen inducido por la presión popular o por algún tipo de revolución al estilo de la primavera árabe o el Maidán de Ucrania. A juzgar por su política exterior, por ejemplo en Asia central o en Bielorrusia, Rusia apoya como dirigente legítimo al líder que controla el poder con independencia de cuáles hayan sido los métodos (truculentos o no) que lo hayan llevado o lo mantengan en él.

Una encuesta del centro Levada realizada en octubre indica que dos tercios de los rusos están en contra del envío de tropas a Siria por temor a las pérdidas humanas y oposición a los gastos que ello conlleva. Un 41% de los encuestados consideran que los recursos gastados en la operación en Siria son necesarios para resolver problemas sociales y el 66% está en contra del envío de tropas terrestres. La política de los dirigentes rusos en Siria goza de un apoyo del 53% de la población y una oposición del 22%, cifras que indican una polarización respecto a septiembre, cuando la relación era de 39% a 11%. El porcentaje de los que no aprueban la intervención crece de forma más rápida que el de los que la aprueban, ha dicho el vicedirector del centro Levada, Alekséi Grazhdankin, según el servicio RBC.



En esta otra aparece como una actitud forzada de Putin presionado por las"grandes potencias", como si la voluntad original de las "grandes potencias" hubiera sido esto.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1842531-rusia-al-assad-siria-ei
Rusia se distancia de Al-Assad y deja su futuro "en manos del pueblo"
La portavoz del Ministerio de Exteriores ruso, María Zajárova, aseguró que Moscú no es quien decide si el presidente sirio debe quedarse en el poder

Miércoles 04 de noviembre de 2015 • 08:08
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Bashar al-Assad y Vladimir Putin.Foto:AP

MOSCÚ.- Desde el comienzo hace cuatro años de la rebelión en Siria que reclama la salida del poder del presidente Bashar Al-Assad, el gobierno ruso se ha mostrado como un gran aliado y defensor de la permanencia del mandatario en el poder.

Sin embargo, a partir de la escalada de violencia que vive la región también por el accionar del grupo terrorista Estado Islámico, Rusia comenzó a mostrar señales de cambio de rumbo, presionada además por las potencias internacionales que buscan la paz del territorio.

Ante este panorama, ayer la portavoz del Ministerio de Exteriores ruso, María Zajárova, se refirió a la permanencia de Bashar Al-Assad y aseguró que no es una cuestión clave para Moscú. "Desde luego que no, nunca hemos dicho eso. Nosotros no decimos si Al-Assad debe irse o quedarse. El futuro del presidente debe ser decidido por el pueblo sirio", dijo según al agencia EFE.
Según Zajárova, lo importante para Rusia es impedir la organización de un nuevo cambio de régimen de consecuencias catastróficas y que "podría convertir la región en un gran agujero negro".

Con esta declaración, la funcionaria del gobierno de Vladimir Putin dejó al descubierto un cambio de postura de Rusia, que meses atrás aseguraba que el presidente sirio debía permanecer al frente del país.

Moscú, que considera a Al-Assad como el presidente legítimo de Siria y es su principal aliado, comenzó el pasado 30 de septiembre una intervención aérea a petición del líder sirio, lo que otorga legitimidad a la operación, según destacó el presidente ruso, Vladimir Putin.

El objetivo de la operación, según Rusia, es apoyar a las tropas gubernamentales sirias en su ofensiva terrestre. Moscú insiste en que el terrorismo del Estado Islámico (EI) y otros grupos es una amenaza común y ha dicho que, además de los bombardeos, se debe abrir un proceso de arreglo político. Sin embargo, Estados Unidos y Europa reclaman a las fuerzas aéreas que además de al grupo extremistas, sus ataques están dirigidos a los rebeldes que desde hace años luchan por la salida de Al-Assad.

Finalmente este cgollito como decía el pelao Martinez:
https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/190502-choque-pavor-siria-rusia-llevar-guerra
"Impacto y asombro" por la operación en Siria: Rusia sí puede llevar adelante una guerra
Publicado: 4 nov 2015 11:34 GMT

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RIA NOVOSTI
El mundo ha quedado impactado por la destreza con la que los aviones rusos lanzan bombas y misiles de alta precisión contra los extremistas sirios. El portal 'The National Interest' trató de entender las causas de este asombro.

Todo sobre este tema
Desde el comienzo de la operación aérea rusa en Siria, los medios internacionales se han centrado en las avanzadas armas de Rusia, como los misiles de crucero o bombas guiadas por láser o satélite.

"Algunos se han preguntado sobre cuántas bombas inteligentes ha utilizado Rusia y puede utilizar aún. Pero el tono general es de impacto y asombro por las capacidades rusas", escribe el medio estadounidense dedicado a asuntos internacionales.

El portal señala que Rusia es un antiguo superpoder que tiene un historial y habilidades enormes para diseñar armas avanzadas. Por ejemplo, el tanque ruso T-34 desmoralizó al Ejército alemán durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial.

Los misiles antitanque y antiaéreos soviéticos sorprendieron a las fuerzas israelíes en 1973 y a las fuerzas estadounidenses en Vietnam.

Hoy en día los tanques rusos están dotados de sistemas avanzados de protección activa contra misiles antitanque.

Los críticos además se preguntan si los cazas rusos Su-30 se impondrían a los mejores aviones estadounidenses, sostiene 'The National Interest'.

"Rusia no es un país del tercer mundo de poca monta al borde del colapso o con un ejército de pacotilla, sino que se trata de la tercera nación del planeta en gastos militares", subraya el medio.

"¿Con los desembolses en sus Fuerzas Armadas valuados en miles de millones, no deberían ser las expectativas sobre el valor militar de Rusia un poco más altas?", agregó.

'The National interest' recuerda que "Rusia es un gran poder militar y debe ser tratado como tal".




Ojale se logre la paz.
 
asmodeoclon dijo:
Rusia se distancia de Al-Assad y deja su futuro "en manos del pueblo"
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pero que hagan las elecciones que quiera...

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Syria conflict: Army recaptures key Aleppo supply route

The Syrian army has retaken control of a road that was the only route into the government-held side of the second city of Aleppo, state media report.

Soldiers had driven back Islamic State (IS) militants, who seized the road from Aleppo to the towns of Khanaser and Ithriya last month, state TV said.


Syrian Forces recapture over 200 square kilometers of Aleppo in last 30 days

The Syrian Army, National Defense Forces (NDF) and Lebanese Hezbollah, in their joint massive operation in the last one month, have pushed the militant groups back in over 200 square kilometers of territories in the Northern province of Aleppo, Fars News reports.

Military sources announced on Tuesday that the Syrian Army and its allies managed to regain an area as large as 223 square kilometers in their massive operations in the different parts of Aleppo.

Battlefield sources also added on Monday that most militant positions, mainly those of ISIL, have come under large-scale operations of the Syrian army, popular forces and Hezbollah in Northeast, East and Southeast Aleppo.

The army razed to the ground the terrorists’ strongholds in Hreitan, al-Shamir and Talat al-Shawaya in Northeastern Aleppo.

Also, the terrorist positions in al-Hader, Kifr Halab, Khalsah, Sheikh Ahmad, al-Muqbila, al-Muflisa and Deir Hafer on the Eastern and Southeastern sides of Aleppo were also massively stormed by the Syrian army and Hezbollah.

The sources said that there have been reports of mass destruction of the militants’ positions and their heavy casualties as a result of the government forces operations in the abovementioned locations.

The Syrian army liberated 13 towns and villages in Aleppo on Saturday and Sunday.


Also, thousands of soldiers from the Syrian army, Hezbollah and popular forces, backed up by Russian air force, launched the final phase of a landmark operation towards a strategic airbase Southeast of Aleppo that has been under siege for two years now.


The Syrian army, National Defense Forces (NDF) and Hezbollah fighters backed up by Russian warplanes started the operation early Tuesday morning and have already come almost half a mile closer to the Kuweires airport in a region where advance in every inch has taken days.

The pro-government forces marched on ISIL positions in the region and advanced to the rural district of Sheikh Ahmad after taking full control of the railway crossing. Early reports from the battlefield said tens of Takfiri terrorists have been killed this morning.

The Syrian army and Hezbollah forces are now deployed in a region only 2 kilomteres away from the airbase.

According to the source, the pro-government forces are preparing to mop up the rest of Sheikh Ahmad to prepare for a massive offensive on ISIL positions along the Aleppo-Raqqa Highway. Some 80 percent of Sheikh Ahmad – that is seen as a milestone in the Damascus war on terrorist groups in the Northern province of Aleppo – is now under the control of the pro-government forces.


Army sources said the Russian strikers play a very crucial role in the operation.

Iran and Saudi Arabia Clash Inside Syria Talks

Iran and Saudi Arabia clashed repeatedly last week inside the diplomatic talks on Syria, with Iran accusing Saudis of terrorism. Their tension threatened to end the new negotiations just as they began in Vienna on Friday.

Inside the nine-hour meeting, according to two Western officials briefed on it, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif and Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir got into a heated argument, during which Zarif blamed Saudi Arabian nationals for the 9/11 attacks. The comments startled the participants, who included Secretary of State John Kerry, and the room went quiet after Zarif’s remark.

Zarif confirmed to me that he made the remark and pointed out that he was not blaming the Saudi government for the 9/11 attacks, just Saudi nationals. Fifteen of the 19 attackers were Saudi citizens.

Western officials who were briefed on the meeting said the anecdote showed the difficulty of getting Iran and Saudi Arabia to discuss anything civilly, much less come to an agreement on Syria, where both sides have proxy forces in the fight. But the meeting Friday did yield a nine-point joint statement outlining shared goals for a resolution of the Syria crisis.

Al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, traveled to Bahrain the next day and spoke forcefully against the Iranian involvement in Syria, at the International Institute for Strategic Studies Manama Dialogue. He set two red lines for any Saudi agreement for a way forward in Syria: that there must be a date and means for the departure of Syrian President Bashar al Assad and that all foreign forces, especially Iranian troops, must leave Syria at the beginning of a political process. Iran has hundreds of fighters in Syria and supports thousands of Hezbollah soldiers.

"It is up to the Iranians whether they want to have relations with us based on good neighborliness, or if they want to have relations that are filled with tension,” he said. "That is on Iran."

On Monday, Iran threatened to withdraw from the talks because of Al-Jubeir’s comments. Iran’s state-run news agency quoted Iranian President Hassan Rouhani as saying: "An inexperienced young man in a regional country will not reach anywhere by rudeness in front of elders.” The comments were widely interpreted to be referring to Al-Jubeir.

In Bahrain on Saturday, British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond told me that he was cautiously optimistic that the Vienna talks that Kerry spearheaded could bear some fruit. But he said the Saudi position as described by al-Jubeir, requiring Iranian forces to leave Syria at the beginning of the process, would not work.

“Of course, that is not realistically achievable, so therefore everything that comes after as being conditioned on that is slightly hypothetical,” he said. “Nobody walked out, and that in itself is a remarkable achievement. Both for the Iranians and the Saudis it is not easy to have that kind of direct discussion.”

Hammond said the two sides are still “far, far apart on the key question,” which is when Assad will go. Iran and Russia want Assad to be able to stand in new elections while the U.S., European and Arab states don’t believe Assad can be any part of a new political process because, as Hammond said, “he has too much blood on his hands.”

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken said in Bahrain that eventually Russia will realize its intervention in Syria was a mistake, and the Kremlin will abandon its support for Assad. Most officials and experts at the conference were skeptical of that assessment. Regardless, Russia has signed on to what’s known as the Geneva Communique, which calls for a transition governing body to take over in Syria until credible elections can be held.

Iran has never agreed to the Geneva terms. Notably, the joint statement coming out of Vienna makes no mention of the transitional governing body. It simply states that the U.N. will convene a political process leading to a new constitution and new elections. If that language stands, Iran will have scored a major concession that opens the door for Assad’s continued rule. The U.S., in its effort to bring Iran to the table, may be putting the solution to the Syria war further from reach.

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"Rusia no es un país del tercer mundo de poca monta al borde del colapso o con un ejército de pacotilla, sino que se trata de la tercera nación del planeta en gastos militares", > Chile :(
 
"Rusia no es un país del tercer mundo de poca monta al borde del colapso o con un ejército de pacotilla", < Chile :(
 
luchogarcia dijo:
pero que hagan las elecciones que quiera...

syrian-election7.jpg


:hands:

Syria conflict: Army recaptures key Aleppo supply route

The Syrian army has retaken control of a road that was the only route into the government-held side of the second city of Aleppo, state media report.

Soldiers had driven back Islamic State (IS) militants, who seized the road from Aleppo to the towns of Khanaser and Ithriya last month, state TV said.


Syrian Forces recapture over 200 square kilometers of Aleppo in last 30 days

The Syrian Army, National Defense Forces (NDF) and Lebanese Hezbollah, in their joint massive operation in the last one month, have pushed the militant groups back in over 200 square kilometers of territories in the Northern province of Aleppo, Fars News reports.

Military sources announced on Tuesday that the Syrian Army and its allies managed to regain an area as large as 223 square kilometers in their massive operations in the different parts of Aleppo.

Battlefield sources also added on Monday that most militant positions, mainly those of ISIL, have come under large-scale operations of the Syrian army, popular forces and Hezbollah in Northeast, East and Southeast Aleppo.

The army razed to the ground the terrorists’ strongholds in Hreitan, al-Shamir and Talat al-Shawaya in Northeastern Aleppo.

Also, the terrorist positions in al-Hader, Kifr Halab, Khalsah, Sheikh Ahmad, al-Muqbila, al-Muflisa and Deir Hafer on the Eastern and Southeastern sides of Aleppo were also massively stormed by the Syrian army and Hezbollah.

The sources said that there have been reports of mass destruction of the militants’ positions and their heavy casualties as a result of the government forces operations in the abovementioned locations.

The Syrian army liberated 13 towns and villages in Aleppo on Saturday and Sunday.


Also, thousands of soldiers from the Syrian army, Hezbollah and popular forces, backed up by Russian air force, launched the final phase of a landmark operation towards a strategic airbase Southeast of Aleppo that has been under siege for two years now.


The Syrian army, National Defense Forces (NDF) and Hezbollah fighters backed up by Russian warplanes started the operation early Tuesday morning and have already come almost half a mile closer to the Kuweires airport in a region where advance in every inch has taken days.

The pro-government forces marched on ISIL positions in the region and advanced to the rural district of Sheikh Ahmad after taking full control of the railway crossing. Early reports from the battlefield said tens of Takfiri terrorists have been killed this morning.

The Syrian army and Hezbollah forces are now deployed in a region only 2 kilomteres away from the airbase.

According to the source, the pro-government forces are preparing to mop up the rest of Sheikh Ahmad to prepare for a massive offensive on ISIL positions along the Aleppo-Raqqa Highway. Some 80 percent of Sheikh Ahmad – that is seen as a milestone in the Damascus war on terrorist groups in the Northern province of Aleppo – is now under the control of the pro-government forces.


Army sources said the Russian strikers play a very crucial role in the operation.

Iran and Saudi Arabia Clash Inside Syria Talks

Iran and Saudi Arabia clashed repeatedly last week inside the diplomatic talks on Syria, with Iran accusing Saudis of terrorism. Their tension threatened to end the new negotiations just as they began in Vienna on Friday.

Inside the nine-hour meeting, according to two Western officials briefed on it, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif and Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir got into a heated argument, during which Zarif blamed Saudi Arabian nationals for the 9/11 attacks. The comments startled the participants, who included Secretary of State John Kerry, and the room went quiet after Zarif’s remark.

Zarif confirmed to me that he made the remark and pointed out that he was not blaming the Saudi government for the 9/11 attacks, just Saudi nationals. Fifteen of the 19 attackers were Saudi citizens.

Western officials who were briefed on the meeting said the anecdote showed the difficulty of getting Iran and Saudi Arabia to discuss anything civilly, much less come to an agreement on Syria, where both sides have proxy forces in the fight. But the meeting Friday did yield a nine-point joint statement outlining shared goals for a resolution of the Syria crisis.

Al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, traveled to Bahrain the next day and spoke forcefully against the Iranian involvement in Syria, at the International Institute for Strategic Studies Manama Dialogue. He set two red lines for any Saudi agreement for a way forward in Syria: that there must be a date and means for the departure of Syrian President Bashar al Assad and that all foreign forces, especially Iranian troops, must leave Syria at the beginning of a political process. Iran has hundreds of fighters in Syria and supports thousands of Hezbollah soldiers.

"It is up to the Iranians whether they want to have relations with us based on good neighborliness, or if they want to have relations that are filled with tension,” he said. "That is on Iran."

On Monday, Iran threatened to withdraw from the talks because of Al-Jubeir’s comments. Iran’s state-run news agency quoted Iranian President Hassan Rouhani as saying: "An inexperienced young man in a regional country will not reach anywhere by rudeness in front of elders.” The comments were widely interpreted to be referring to Al-Jubeir.

In Bahrain on Saturday, British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond told me that he was cautiously optimistic that the Vienna talks that Kerry spearheaded could bear some fruit. But he said the Saudi position as described by al-Jubeir, requiring Iranian forces to leave Syria at the beginning of the process, would not work.

“Of course, that is not realistically achievable, so therefore everything that comes after as being conditioned on that is slightly hypothetical,” he said. “Nobody walked out, and that in itself is a remarkable achievement. Both for the Iranians and the Saudis it is not easy to have that kind of direct discussion.”

Hammond said the two sides are still “far, far apart on the key question,” which is when Assad will go. Iran and Russia want Assad to be able to stand in new elections while the U.S., European and Arab states don’t believe Assad can be any part of a new political process because, as Hammond said, “he has too much blood on his hands.”

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken said in Bahrain that eventually Russia will realize its intervention in Syria was a mistake, and the Kremlin will abandon its support for Assad. Most officials and experts at the conference were skeptical of that assessment. Regardless, Russia has signed on to what’s known as the Geneva Communique, which calls for a transition governing body to take over in Syria until credible elections can be held.

Iran has never agreed to the Geneva terms. Notably, the joint statement coming out of Vienna makes no mention of the transitional governing body. It simply states that the U.N. will convene a political process leading to a new constitution and new elections. If that language stands, Iran will have scored a major concession that opens the door for Assad’s continued rule. The U.S., in its effort to bring Iran to the table, may be putting the solution to the Syria war further from reach.

RT Grills US State Dept over claims Russia airstrike hit a hospital in Syria


On Repeat: US says 'premature' for Syrian govt & opposition to meet in Russia


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Los Saudíes son la boca del muñeco por el que habla el ventrilocuo sionista, la idea es seguir prolongando el desgaste y como ganan un poco mas en las negociaciones.
 
BadReputation dijo:
Rusia sabe que si hay una elección, Al Assad la gana trotando. Esa es la "trampa" del asunto. Con eso, Al Assad ganaría una legitimidad incuestionable.
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No hay ninguna trampa si la eleccion la gana legitimamente, te imaginai como va a estar Siria llena de observadores extranjeros vigilando un posible fraude, no van a poder hacer ni una wea rara, si gana Assad seria porque hay una mayoria no mensurable en este momento que ve a Assad como el lider que los puede llevar por la senda de un pais ordenado y en paz, lo mismo si ganara la oposicion, sea cual sea quien salga elejido tiene que pegarse la cacha que las fuerzas perdedoras deben tener participacion en las decisiones que definen el futuro del pais.
Saludos.
 
asmodeoclon dijo:
No hay ninguna trampa si la eleccion la gana legitimamente, te imaginai como va a estar Siria llena de observadores extranjeros vigilando un posible fraude, no van a poder hacer ni una wea rara, si gana Assad seria porque hay una mayoria no mensurable en este momento que ve a Assad como el lider que los puede llevar por la senda de un pais ordenado y en paz, lo mismo si ganara la oposicion, sea cual sea quien salga elejido tiene que pegarse la cacha que las fuerzas perdedoras deben tener participacion en las decisiones que definen el futuro del pais.
Saludos.
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Sabias palabras contertulio, un gobierno que excluye totalmente a la oposición mermara la democracia :sisi:
 
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