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Exclusively for Loading.se, A source close to Nintendo has all the information regarding the company's next home console.
June 7th is the date that everyone has been waiting for. Nintendo unveils their next home console at E3 in Los Angeles. But Loading can already now reveal some of the hottest (and most trustworthy) rumors about the machine. This is all we got to know about Nintendo Feel.
Our source, who has a close connection to the company, speaks about the console in a conversation with us. We choose to deliver the information unedited and untranslated [from Eng to Swe]:
– Nintendo wants to change the way we play – again. The success of Wii was essentially proof that the controller is every bit as important as graphical technology. When Nintendo unveils its next piece of hardware on June 7th, the presentation will be as much about the feel, as the look, of its new games. The revolutionary aspect will once again be found in the controller itself.
After Touch comes Feel
We already know Nintendo is developing a controller with a built-in screen. Since that info got leaked there have been paralels between Apple's iPad and how Nintendo used the GBA as a controller for a few Gamecube-games. But this new "Screen-controller" brings another dimension - Feel. Our source uses the name "Nintendo Feel"
– Haptic technology is a form of tactile feedback used to simulate the experience of touching different objects shown on screen. The player can move their fingertips across a surface and clearly feel the difference between soft, smooth or rugged textures. Electronic companies across the world have been conducting research in this field for years. It’s been rumored that Apple is close to patenting a similar technology, and we’ve seen the Toshiba demonstration of ‘New Sensation UI Solution’, that applies a thin film over a screen in order to achieve a haptic effect. In Nintendo’s case, this is a natural progression of both the Nintendo DS touch screen and the Wii technology.
Hardcore meats Casual
After having recieved the information on Nintendo Feel from our source we have gotten confirmation that the technology exists. Toshiba seems to have shown it to the public and we have had a Novint Falcon in the office for a long time. Novint was one of the first companies to introduce haptic feedback to the gaming world.
According to our source the work for the new console has been going on for a few years, and throughout this whole time the goal has been to create an as direct and easy-to-understand concept as the Wii.
– You have to try Nintendo Feel to really understand. But the idea itself is very easy to sell, no matter if you are aiming for hardcore players or the wider audience that was first introduced to games through DS, Wii or Kinect.
And sure, anyone can suddenly realize the feeling of fur agains the fingertips would do for Nintendogs. You don't have to be unfamiliar to The Legend of Zelda to understand the epicness in drawing patterns in a desert, feeling the breeze from a lake, the burning sensation from lava or realizing the structure of a very old tree.
At the same time, Nintendo Feel is an experience that doesn't want to explain itself in words, but rather tell the player through his hands. Which is probably why Nintendo will bring playable demos to E3, even tho the finished console won't be available until 2012.
All visions in one
Nintendo Feel is on many levels a summary of all the grand visions Nintendo has had during the latest gaming generation. Starting with the Rumble Pack for the Nintendo 64, Nintendo gave the player physical feedback through the controller, and 2006 they started the concept "Touch Generations" to marked the Wii and DS to a whole new audience. If we get to see a "Feel Generations" marketing remains to be seen, but one thing is sure: The new console is an extension of the idea of more intuitive controllmethods.
Also the individual screens revived the "Connectivity" concept launched during the Gamecube/GBA era. A concept that never got the impact Nintendo was hoping for. Our source says:
– Remember Vitality Sensor? It will most likely make a comeback at this year’s E3, though not as a peripheral for Wii, but as a key feature of Nintendo Feel.
And yet another puzzlepiece.
http://loading.se/news.php?pub_id=15144 (sitio sueco, lol)
en resumen: el control tendria tecnología "haptic touchscreen", lo que permite que los objetos que aparezcan en la pantalla del control tengan "textura" haciendo que la experiencia con el control sea aun mas "realista"
gracias a tekken por el post confirmando la consola:
Nintendo CONFIRMA la llega de una nueva consola, la cual se mostrara en el E3 de este año y tiene previsto su lanzamiento al mercado el proximo año (2012)
To whom it may concern:
Re: Wii's successor system
Nintendo Co., Ltd. has decided to launch in 2012 a system to succeed Wii, which the company has sold 86.01 million units on a consolidated shipment basis between its launch in 2006 and the end of March 2011.
We will show a playable model of the new system and announce more specifications at the E3 Expo, which will be held June 7-9, 2011, in Los Angeles.
Sales of this new system have not been included in the financial forecasts announced today for the fiscal term ending March 2012.
Fuente:
http://kotaku.com/#!5795241/nintendo-confirms-wii-successor
Otra Supuesta Imagen Filtrada de la consola, ahora tiene color.
“Project Café es simplemente la consola más amigable que la industria haya visto hasta ahora. Ofrece un rendimiento sin igual de próxima generación a costos de la generación actual. No hay nada más fácil que esto”.
La imagen también dice que cuenta con fácil portabilidad de PC y Xbox 360, así como con la habilidad de actualizar juegos en cualquier momento y un framework M-Live integrado.
Aca más imagenes
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156521
Nintendo is considering a possible connectivity between the Nintendo 3DS and a future home console, where the Nintendo 3DS could be used as a controller
suena raro eso despues de todos los rumores de que el control tendria una pantalla
"serian" los controles
(es una ilustracion de un fan, antes de que alguien diga alguna wea )
un comentario que lei por ahi
The PS3/XboX is destroying the Wii in graphics right now, but not where it counts in sales, so Nintendo won't be any worst off, than they are right now. They'll be better off, because they'll at least get decent HD ports, because HD is not going to change with the PS4/XboX3. We're not going past 1080p TV's anytime soon people, so graphics are not going to get too much more realistic, than they already are anytime soon either. Look at the PC for example. Sure BF3 looks a bit better on the PC, over the PS3/360, but its not so much that it puts them to shame in any way. So if Nintendo HD console is more powerful than a PS3/360, than it should be fine for the next generation and for many more years to come!
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110425_4e.pdf
nintendo presenta la consola este E3. ya la confirmó como tal y su lanzamiento es este otro año.
aqui tambien hay una traducción de un articulo del sitio 01net.com
Project Cafe: a few precisions on the controller and the streaming
A tablet similar the UDraw, advanced streaming functionalities with the console and the tablets/controllers, the latest news on the Wii 2.
The informations published yesterday by IGN on the Project Cafe technical characteristics confirm what we have published in our April 15 article (http://www.01net.com/editorial/53163...eur-de-la-wii/ . Also, our sources confirm that the "mablette" [TN: untranslatable] (contraction of controller and tablet), that we revealed the existance here (http://www.01net.com/editorial/53166...-pour-manette/ , has been described by Nintendo as a version 2.
Similar to the UDraw [TN: bad translation]
To give us an idea of what it will look like, our sources suggest to imagine a near cousin [TN: read, similar] to the UDraw graphic tablet, designed by THQ for the Wii, with a touch screen in place of the pen pad, and the controls distributed around the screen (triggers, d-pad, 2 "bumpers" (shoulder button?), sticks, etc.)
The Project Cafe controller could be described as a near cousin of the UDraw tablet that THQ created for the Wii.
Screen is not HD
The 6" panoramic screen is, for now, single touch with an uncommon resolution 5**x8**, clearly below 720p. We think the tablet (V2) seems to be most credible development path [TN: really not sure about this one]. Remember that until the planned release in June 2012, tentative date given to the developers, Nintendo will have the time to significantly change the shape and look of the controller and the console.
[Label to the first mockup] A non-official mockup, described by our sources as one of the closest to the design of the V2 controller.
A story of streaming
IGN also talked about the design of the console, saying that it is a kind of futurist SNES. Our sources cannot talk about this, since most developers don't have a prototype with the proprietary casing. Also on the English website, Nintendo consider calling the console "Stream".
Here again, our source cannot confirm this, but it could be a plausible choice and clever (excluding the urinary connotations, in the same lineage of the Wii, that already make people laugh on the English web). The streaming will have a central role for the attraction of this Project Cafe. The console will be able to wirelessly broadcast (stream) many type of streams (misc media, games) to the controllers. It will be possible to play games without turning on the TV, or begin an intense match on the TV and continue it in the bathroom. A true revolution.
[Label to the second mockup] A last mockup that does not correlate to the description by our sources, but remains credible.
Thin client?
The console and its controllers could work using a principle of "virtualization", where most of the processing is done on the console and the controllers act as display terminals, displaying pre-computed content [TN: code in the original article]. This system could broadcast high quality games on the controllers, with no noticable latency and without using compressed video streaming, which requires large bandwidth.
http://www.01net.com/editorial/531993/project-cafe-quelques-precisions-sur-la-manette-et-le-streaming/
noticias mas antiguas abajo
este ultimo par de dias, ha crecido un rumor muy fuerte de que nintendo piensa ser el primero en decir "vamos a la proxima generacion de consolas".
el objetivo, al parecer, es volver a cautivar al mercdo hardcore, pero al mismo tiempo, manteniendo el exito que tiene su actual consola, la wii, en el mercado casual y familiar.
EDIT 2: al parecer, la info de CVG tiene varios errores de traducción del sitio frances 01 net, aqui estan las correcciónes:
en resumen: la pantalla del control no sería hd ni multitouch. algo similar a lo que es la pantalla del ds.
graficamente sería similar con 360 pero de un rendimiento levemente superiór (ojo: la gpu de la 360 es la mejor de las 3 consolas actuales).
en spoiler articulo anteriór.
y este articulo, habla de los 3rd parties y las caracteristicas del control nuevo:
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/sources-confirm-more-details-on-wii-successor
ya estamos concluyendo que la consola efectivamente existe, ya hay 3rd parties potentes con el devkit hace meses, especificaciones solidas y de caracteristicas reales y lo mas importante para confirmar que ya no es un rumor:
- un conjunto de sitios importantes de la red estan reportando sobre ellos en base a fuentes confiables y creibles, con ya experiencia en "revelar" informacion antes de anuncios oficiales.
info mas antigua abajo.
el objetivo, al parecer, es volver a cautivar al mercdo hardcore, pero al mismo tiempo, manteniendo el exito que tiene su actual consola, la wii, en el mercado casual y familiar.
EDIT 2: al parecer, la info de CVG tiene varios errores de traducción del sitio frances 01 net, aqui estan las correcciónes:
Controller
- 6" touchscreen, not HD, not multitouch
- D-Pad, L, R, two triggers, others
- 'Front-facing camera'
- A sensor roughly analagous to the Wii sensor bar is incorporated in the controller - i.e. some kind of IR beacons/transmitters. Purpose isn't clear.
Specs
- Custom triple-core PowerPC
- AMD/ATI GPU. 'Probably' derived from R700 series.
- RAM unknown
- Developer quotes: graphics capabilities "roughly equal to those of the Xbox 360", performance "over the Xbox 360, but just a notch"
Misc
- One other 'huge surprise' about the system
Seems like mostly:
- Sensor bar being built into the controller is a mistranslation. It seems there will be one very similar to the Wii.
- Backwards compatibility is completely unconfirmed, but the site speculates it will be possible because of the similar architecture.
- Blu-ray is not confirmed and hasn't been brought up by their sources, which seems odd to me as that is kind of a big point to notice.
- Just a "notch above Xbox 360" and not "significantly more powerful" as reported by IGN.
en resumen: la pantalla del control no sería hd ni multitouch. algo similar a lo que es la pantalla del ds.
graficamente sería similar con 360 pero de un rendimiento levemente superiór (ojo: la gpu de la 360 es la mejor de las 3 consolas actuales).
en spoiler articulo anteriór.
EDIT: este articulo de CVG habla de las caracteristicas de la consola:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/298348/news/wii-2-is-project-caf-says-report-tech-specs-controller-details-claimed/
Wii 2 is 'Project Café', says report - tech specs, controller details claimed
Friday 15-Apr-2011 3:01 PM New console to be 'a bit more powerful than 360'
As if you haven't had enough today, the latest Wii 2 rumour report has emerged - and it's a big one, claiming tech specs and controller details for the not-so-secret-anymore Nintendo console.
French site 01net, which previously released the NGP specs long before any official announcement, has backed up widespread claims that Nintendo will reveal its next console at E3 this year.
It's also backed up CVG's scoop that the console's controller will feature a built-in high-resolution screen.
According to the latest report, 'Wii 2' is being internally referred to as 'Project Café', and sports architecture similar to that of the Xbox 360, "but a bit more powerful".
It says the console will include a custom IBM PowerPC CPU with three cores, a GPU from the ATI R700 family with a shader unit at version 4.1, and at least 512Mb of RAM.
This would of course make HD console ports very easy for developers, but 'Project Café' will also include backwards compatibility with both the Wii (including all peripherals) and GameCube games, it's said.
The controller has a six-inch touch screen, a front-facing camera, D-Pad, two bumpers, two triggers and "possibly more," and can allegedly be used as a Wii sensor bar.
Late 2012 is the release date, and another "big surprise" about the console is set to be revealed at E3, the report concludes.
As always consider this a strong rumour for now, but it's a good source indeed.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/298348/news/wii-2-is-project-caf-says-report-tech-specs-controller-details-claimed/
para dar un ejemplo: las tarjetas AMD r700 son parte de la familia Radeon HD 4000. la xbox 360 ocupa una tarjeta r500, similar a una radeon x1900 "overclockeada".
y este articulo, habla de los 3rd parties y las caracteristicas del control nuevo:
Ubisoft studios have had development kits “for months”, motion-sensing “better than Move”; announcement at E3?
Sources have this morning confirmed reports that Nintendo has a successor to the Wii in the works, telling us that thirdparty studios including those of Ubisoft, Activision and Electronic Arts have had development units of the new hardware for months.
They have also claimed that the system retains motion control, with capabilities that are “better than Move”, meaning that they boast higher fidelity. We do not yet have word on whether or not its motion-controlled solution introduces a camera.
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/sources-confirm-more-details-on-wii-successor
ya estamos concluyendo que la consola efectivamente existe, ya hay 3rd parties potentes con el devkit hace meses, especificaciones solidas y de caracteristicas reales y lo mas importante para confirmar que ya no es un rumor:
- un conjunto de sitios importantes de la red estan reportando sobre ellos en base a fuentes confiables y creibles, con ya experiencia en "revelar" informacion antes de anuncios oficiales.
info mas antigua abajo.
rumores como "logrará resoluciones de 1080p", como estima jim relly, editor de IGN.
https://twitter.com/#!/jimreilly/status/58622803158642688
entre otros rumores, tales como que su control no será un gimmick como el wiimote, pero tendrá una pantalla en alta resolución, incluso con opción touchscreen.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/14/new-nintendo-console-at-e3.aspx
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/298241/news/wii-2-has-all-new-hd-controller-out-2012-sources/
en mi opinion:
nintendo siempre, pero SIEMPRE, ha tratado de tener una constante evolución en a lo que control se refiere. logró que su wiimote fuera la base para "sistemas de control" mas complejos, como kinect, que ha demostrado ser un exitazo. no creo que nintendo deje de lado ese concepto en su proxima consola, pero tampoco significa que no haga un control nuevo, que de seguro lo va a haber.
en cuanto a la potencia de la consola, no creo que se ponga a la vanguardia tecnologica (ya lo hizo con la n64 y la gc, mucho mas poderosa que la ps y la ps2, pero no fueron exito). a nintendo le va bien con una consola standard (promedio entre las 3 consolas, no tan bajo como la wii), pero con un control innovador.
ahora, que sea presentada, preeliminarmente, este E3, es muy posible (casi 80-85% de probabilidad).
https://twitter.com/#!/jimreilly/status/58622803158642688
entre otros rumores, tales como que su control no será un gimmick como el wiimote, pero tendrá una pantalla en alta resolución, incluso con opción touchscreen.
digg
According to multiple reports today, Nintendo will reveal a new console at E3 this coming June.
Game Informer first reported the details, saying the console is capable of running games at "HD resolutions." Our sources have said the the console is significantly more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, and that Nintendo's intent is to recapture the hardcore market. Another source said it is capable of 1080p resolutions.
Nintendo is reportedly showing the console to publishers to garner interest for a late 2012 launch.
Additional sources tell IGN that Nintendo will release a pre-announcement this month with a full reveal expected at E3 and that the console will be backwards compatible with current Wii software.
A report from CVG states the new Nintendo console will use an all-new controller - not an updated Wii controller - with sources saying it will have a built-in screen. Additional sources informed IGN the screen has touch capability.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html
We have confirmed with multiple sources that this new home system is capable of running games at HD resolutions. There are conflicting reports, however, as to whether its graphics will be comparable to those on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 – meaning it could surpass or fall short of those systems. Either way it will offer competitive specifications. Moving to HD should greatly help Nintendo and its new console in getting more multi-platform triple-A titles like Portal 2 or Mortal Kombat. This, in turn, will strengthen Nintendo's historically poor relationship with third-party publishers/developers.
In fact, Nintendo is already showing publishers the system in an effort to get them interested and allow them plenty of time to start developing titles in anticipation of the system's reported late 2012 launch. This advance support marks a change from when the Wii launched. At that time, several Western publishers were outright surprised by the announcement, and it affected the software support for the platform.
...
"Nintendo is doing this one right," said an anonymous source. "[It's] not a gimmick like the Wii." What else, beyond graphics, this may imply about the system is unknown. What kind of controls the system will support (we imagine a need for both classic analog configurations and motion controllers) or what level of software and infrastructure Nintendo will provide for online gaming is also unknown. However, it's a positive sign that the system might be more than just an HD Wii.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/14/new-nintendo-console-at-e3.aspx
Nintendo's Wii successor is set to utilise an entirely new controller and will be more powerful than Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, well-placed international industry sources have told CVG.
CVG sources understand Nintendo plans to officially unveil the console, which will feature full HD visuals and graphical capabilities beyond Sony and Microsoft's current hardware, at E3 this June.
Leading games publishers have already been briefed on the new console, we understand, and launch titles from third-party developers are in the works right now.
What's most exciting about the Wii successor however is its all-new controller, which industry sources have indicated is not simply an upgraded Wii Remote, and will even feature a built-in HD screen.
Our sources did not specify whether or not the controller displays will feature any other functionality, such as that of the DS's touch screen, but it's easy to imagine the sort of innovation an extra screen could bring to Wii 2 games.
"Nintendo's plans sound unreal," one source said. "Publishers are already planning launch titles and it's all very exciting.
"The hardware is even more powerful than current HD consoles and backwards compatible with Wii. The controller will be all-new and has a HD screen on it."
We're told Nintendo plans to launch the Wii successor in late 2012, which lines up with earlier reports from other games media.
Asked to comment on today's reports earlier, a Nintendo of America spokesperson issued a straight "no comment".
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/298241/news/wii-2-has-all-new-hd-controller-out-2012-sources/
en mi opinion:
nintendo siempre, pero SIEMPRE, ha tratado de tener una constante evolución en a lo que control se refiere. logró que su wiimote fuera la base para "sistemas de control" mas complejos, como kinect, que ha demostrado ser un exitazo. no creo que nintendo deje de lado ese concepto en su proxima consola, pero tampoco significa que no haga un control nuevo, que de seguro lo va a haber.
en cuanto a la potencia de la consola, no creo que se ponga a la vanguardia tecnologica (ya lo hizo con la n64 y la gc, mucho mas poderosa que la ps y la ps2, pero no fueron exito). a nintendo le va bien con una consola standard (promedio entre las 3 consolas, no tan bajo como la wii), pero con un control innovador.
ahora, que sea presentada, preeliminarmente, este E3, es muy posible (casi 80-85% de probabilidad).